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Categories for discussion (CfD) is the central venue for discussing specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories and stub types in accordance with the guidelines for categorization, category naming and stub articles.
For detailed instructions about using CfD, see "How to use CfD" below. Briefly, nominations are handled through one of two processes:
- Speedy renaming and merging, for uncontroversial proposals that meet specified criteria—see "Speedy renaming and merging" below.
- Full discussion, for all other proposals. Discussions typically remain open for at least seven days and are closed once a rough consensus has formed or no objections to the nomination are raised.
Except in uncontroversial cases such as reverting vandalism, do not amend or depopulate a category once it has been nominated at CfD as this hampers other editors' efforts to evaluate a category and participate in the discussion.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, in limited circumstances it may be helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a CfD request that is limited in scope to renaming, as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the request closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of a CfD move discussion to determine whether or not the close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines. CfDs involving deletion should be reviewed at Wikipedia:Deletion review.
Scope
[edit]CfD is intended only for specific proposals to delete, merge, rename or split categories or stub types. For general discussion about how to improve the category system, use other appropriate venues such as Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and any relevant WikiProjects' talk pages.
Current discussions
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Discussions awaiting closure
[edit]- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 7 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 2 (2 open)
See also the list of individual discussions awaiting closure here and the list of full open discussions awaiting closure here.
How to use CfD
[edit]Nomination procedure
[edit]Twinkle
[edit]You may use Twinkle to facilitate CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and check "Twinkle" in the "Browsing" section. Use the now-installed "XfD" (Start a deletion discussion) tab while viewing the page you want to nominate.
Twinkle only allows you to nominate a single category or stub template. For bundled nominations including multiple categories, see § MassCFD.
MassCFD
[edit]You can use the script User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD to automatically make mass nominations.
Manual nominations
[edit]I | Preliminary steps.
Before nominating a category:
In the following special cases:
For further information, see Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Manual of Style. |
II | Edit the category.
Add one of the following templates at the beginning of the category page (not the talk page) of every category to be discussed. For nominations involving large numbers of categories, help adding these templates can be requested here.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) to copy and paste one of the templates below. When inserting category names into these template's parameters, except the
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Stub types
[edit]I | Preliminary steps.
In general, a stub type consists of a stub template and a dedicated stub category. Before nominating a stub type for deletion, merging or renaming:
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II | Edit the template.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the template to be discussed.
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III | Create the CFD section.
Click THIS LINK to edit the section of CfD for today's entries. Follow the instructions (visible in edit mode) and paste the following text (remember to update the default parameters):
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Notifying interested projects and editors
[edit]In addition to the steps listed above, you may choose to invite participation by editors who are likely to be informed about a nominated category. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing. In addition, to help make your messages about the CfD discussion clear, avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations, link to relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the discussion itself.
- Notifying related WikiProjects
WikiProjects consist of groups of editors who are interested in a particular subject. If a nominated category is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, consider adding a brief, neutral note on their talk page(s) about the nomination. You may use {{subst:cfd notice|Category name|2024 December 15|CfD section name}} ~~~~
or write a personalized message.
Tagging the nominated category's talk page with a relevant WikiProject's banner will include the category in that WikiProject's Article Alerts if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a nominated category with {{WikiProject Physics}} will add the discussion to Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
- Notifying substantial contributors to the category
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and main contributors of the category that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, check the category's page history or talk page. You may use {{Cfd notice}}
to inform the category's creator and all other editors.
- Notifying other interested editors
It may be helpful to invite other subject-matter experts by posting a message on the talk page of the most closely related article, such as Protein family for Category:Protein families. You may use {{Cfdnotice}}
for this.
Closing procedure
[edit]After seven days, someone will close the discussion according to the consensus that formed or, if needed, relist it to allow more discussion. Editors closing discussions must follow the administrator instructions and, except in the case of a "keep" or "no consensus" outcome, implement the result or log it at the Working page to ensure it is implemented.
Redirecting categories
[edit]In general, an unpopulated category should be deleted (see speedy deletion criterion C1) because it is not useful for navigation and sorting. In limited circumstances, and because categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects (i.e. #REDIRECT[[''target'']]
), we use a form of "soft redirect" to solve the issue. You can create a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}}
to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets.
In particular, category redirects are used at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up category redirects from titles with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
A list of redirected categories is available at Category:Wikipedia soft redirected categories.
Speedy renaming and merging
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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
or{{subst:cfm-speedy|Merge target}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Requests may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
[edit]The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
[edit]- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
[edit]- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
[edit]Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
[edit]- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
[edit]- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
[edit]- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article). When listing the nomination at WP:CFDS, you must manually add all the appropriate parent categories as targets if the member page is not already in them.
Admin instructions
[edit]When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
[edit]- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
[edit]If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 15:59, 13 December 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 1,830 open requests (. )
Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour waiting period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests
[edit]Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Women's Championship (England) to Category:Women's Championship and sub-categories – C2D per Women's Championship. CNC (talk) 11:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Women's Championship (England) awards to Category:Women's Championship awards
- Category:Women's Championship (England) managers to Category:Women's Championship managers
- Category:Women's Championship (England) players to Category:Women's Championship players
- Category:Women's Championship (England) football club squad templates to Category:Women's Championship football club squad templates
- Category:Women's Championship (England) teams to Category:Women's Championship teams
- Oppose this batch, too ambiguous. C2D does not apply because of Women's Championship (disambiguation). Marcocapelle (talk) 15:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Military industry to Category:Arms industry – C2D: Military industry is a redirect to arms industry. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:16, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Kabylie to Category:Kabylia – C2D: Kabylia. 2A01:CB00:C66:F400:31B1:530A:9886:CD24 (talk) 08:35, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Neapolitan families to Category:Families of Naples – C2C: Per other categories in Category:Italian families. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:French family of Ireland to Category:French family (Ireland) – C2C: Per other categories of Category:Irish families. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Ezra family (Calcutta) to Category:Ezra family of Calcutta – C2C: Per other categories of category:Indian families. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Vergara family Chile to Category:Vergara family (Chile) – C2C: Per other categories of category:Chilean families. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Clifford family of New Zealand to Category:Clifford family (New Zealand) – C2C: Per other categories in category:New Zealand families. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Henry family of New Zealand to Category:Henry family (New Zealand) – C2C: Per other categories in category:New Zealand families. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Greenwood family of New Zealand to Category:Greenwood family (New Zealand) – C2C: Per other categories in category:New Zealand families. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Bailey family (Rugby) to Category:Bailey family (rugby) – C2A: Capitalization. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Luttrell family (of Dunster) to Category:Luttrell family of Dunster – C2C: Per other subcategories of Category:Political families of the United Kingdom. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:08, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Mjeda Family to Category:Mjeda family – C2A: Capitalization. Mike Selinker (talk) 07:36, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Los Guerreros to Category:Guerrero family – C2D: per Guerrero family. (Los Guerreros is tag team that most articles in this category were not a part of.) Armbrust The Homunculus 06:56, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Cooper family (Mixed martial arts) to Category:Cooper family (mixed martial arts) – C2A: Capitalization. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:52, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Keeble family (Tennessee) to Category:Keeble family of Tennessee – C2C: Per other subcategories of Category:American families by state or territory. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Clarke family (Rhode Island) to Category:Clarke family of Rhode Island
- Category:Goodyear family (New York) to Category:Goodyear family of New York
- Category:Campbell family (North Carolina) to Category:Campbell family of North Carolina
- Category:Hunt family (North Carolina) to Category:Hunt family of North Carolina
- Category:Scott family (North Carolina) to Category:Scott family of North Carolina
- Category:Morris family (Morrisania and New Jersey) to Category:Morris family of Morrisania and New Jersey
- Category:Reed family (Pennsylvania and New Jersey) to Category:Reed family of Pennsylvania and New Jersey
- Category:Howard family (Louisiana) to Category:Howard family of Louisiana
- Category:Vann family (Georgia) to Category:Vann family of Georgia (U.S. state)
- Category:Brown family (California) to Category:Brown family of California
- Category:Drummond family (Alabama) to Category:Drummond family of Alabama
- Category:Military families of the United States to Category:American military families – C2C: Per Category:American families and Category:Military families. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Military families of the United Kingdom to Category:British military families – C2C: Per Category:British families and Category:Military families. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Military families of Germany to Category:German military families – C2C: Per Category:German families and Category:Military families. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:25, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Military families of Denmark to Category:Danish military families – C2C: Per Category:Danish families and Category:Military families. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:25, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Military families of Colombia to Category:Colombian military families – C2C: Per Category:Colombian families and Category:Military families. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:24, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Jacobs family (telecom) to Category:Jacobs family (telecommunications) – C2C: Per category:Telecommunications company families. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:22, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Demand responsive transport to Category:Demand-responsive transport – C2D: per Demand-responsive transport. 1857a (talk) 06:17, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Business families of the United States to Category:American business families – C2C: Per category:American families and other subcategories of category:Business families by country. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Business families of the United Kingdom to Category:British business families – C2C: Per category:British families and other subcategories of category:Business families by country. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Business families of Sweden to Category:Swedish business families – C2C: Per category:Swedish families and other subcategories of category:Business families by country. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:11, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Business families of Singapore to Category:Singaporean business families – C2C: Per category:Singaporean families and other subcategories of category:Business families by country. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:11, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Business families of the Philippines to Category:Filipino business families – C2C: Per category:Filipino families and other subcategories of category:Business families by country. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Business families of Nigeria to Category:Nigerian business families – C2C: Per category:Nigerian families and other subcategories of category:Business families by country. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Business families of India to Category:Indian business families – C2C: Per category:Indian families and other subcategories of category:Business families by country. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:08, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Business families of El Salvador to Category:Salvadoran business families – C2C: Per Category:Salvadoran families and other subcategories of category:Business families by country. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Klausener Family to Category:Cluysenaar family – C2D: Per Cluysenaar family. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Henderson (rugby league) family to Category:Henderson family (rugby league) – C2C: Per all other categories of Category:Sports families that put the parenthetical after "family." Mike Selinker (talk) 05:39, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Fritsche family (hockey) to Category:Fritsche family (ice hockey) – C2C: Per Category:Ice hockey families. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hilton family (Boxing) to Category:Hilton family (boxing) – C2A: Capitalization. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:36, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Watchmen (film) to Category:Watchmen (2009 film) – C2D: To follow the recent move of Watchmen (2009 film). Trailblazer101 (talk) 04:15, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Alvarado wrestling family to Category:Alvarado professional wrestling family – C2C: Per all other subcategories of Category:Professional wrestling families. Mike Selinker (talk) 00:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy The main article is Alvarado wrestling family. Armbrust The Homunculus 06:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Mehmed the Conqueror to Category:Mehmed II – C2D: Should match main article's name of subject since the name has been longstanding. I think it should apply for sub-categories as well. StephenMacky1 (talk) 15:08, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Suicides in Ancient Macedonia to Category:Suicides in ancient Macedonia – C2A: "Ancient" not typically capitalized in this way. See Theatre of ancient Greece for example. WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Suicides in Ancient Greece to Category:Suicides in ancient Greece – C2A: "Ancient" not typically capitalized in this way. See Theatre of ancient Greece for example. WikiEditor50 (talk) 09:58, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East – C2A Russian Rocky (talk) 09:04, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Asia to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Asia
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Israel to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Israel
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Jordan to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Jordan
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Lebanon to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Lebanon
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Syria to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Syria
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Turkey to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Turkey
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Europe to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Europe
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Austria to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Austria
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in France to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in France
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Russia to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Russia
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in the United Kingdom to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in the United Kingdom
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in Scotland to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in Scotland
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in North America to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in North America
- Category:Museums of Ancient Near East in the United States to Category:Museums of the ancient Near East in the United States
- Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East to Category:Novels set in the ancient Near East
- Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East to Category:Films set in the ancient Near East
- Category:Closed wing aircraft to Category:Closed-wing aircraft – C2C: Consistency with other subcategories of Category:Wing configurations The Bushranger One ping only 23:51, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedians who listen to nintendocore to Category:Wikipedians who listen to Nintendocore – C2A. 1857a (talk) 23:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:1980s hip hop album stubs to Category:1980s hip-hop album stubs – C2C, C2D – Fayenatic London 22:44, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Muses to Category:Muses (persons) – C2D per Muse (person). Brandmeistertalk 21:36, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Infantry weapons to Category:Small arms and light weapons – C2D: Infantry weapon currently points to Small arms and light weapons. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:16, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - the common useage is "infantry weapon", vis-a-vis the legal/treaty definition. This is a case where searching would be better served, IMHO, by having the article and category at different titles. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:03, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:1980s in hip-hop music to Category:1980s in hip-hop – C2C/C2D, hip hop music was moved by RM to hip-hop, so "music" should have been removed when this was speedily renamed to the hyphenated form. – Fayenatic London 16:11, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:1990s in hip-hop music to Category:1990s in hip-hop
- Category:2000s in hip-hop music to Category:2000s in hip-hop
- Category:2010s in hip-hop music to Category:2010s in hip-hop
- Category:20th century in hip-hop music to Category:20th century in hip-hop
- Category:21st century in hip-hop music to Category:21st century in hip-hop
- Category:Intercontinental Cup (football) to Category:Intercontinental Cup (1960–2004) – C2D: Per Intercontinental Cup (1960–2004) following page move discussion. BLAIXX 14:10, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Assassination of Brian Thompson to Category:Killing of Brian Thompson – C2D: The article uses the term "Killing" and not "Assassination" Sebbog13 (talk) 21:25, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- This category has been empted. Liz Read! Talk! 19:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- I tagged the category for speedy deletion, let us keep it here in the queue and then delete unless it gets repopulated. Ymblanter (talk) 06:36, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- This category has been empted. Liz Read! Talk! 19:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Opposed requests
[edit]- Category:Flying disc to Category:Frisbee – C2D: Per frisbee, the main article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:19, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - subcategories Category:Flying disc games and Category:Flying disc tournaments aren't logically renamable to "Frisbee foo", and "Flying disc" is the generic term of Frisbee. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:30, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Those are not the main article of the category, so that isn't relevant at all. Frisbee is an unequivocally genericized term for all flying discs, as there has been consensus in the main article to demonstrate with the title. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:55, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's relevant because renaming this would create a mis-match between the main category and its children. I believe this should be given a full CfD accordingly. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:21, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - subcategories Category:Flying disc games and Category:Flying disc tournaments aren't logically renamable to "Frisbee foo", and "Flying disc" is the generic term of Frisbee. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:30, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:United States senators of Asian descent to Category:United States senators of Asian and Pacific Islander descent. – Matching the members of the more inclusive main article it draws from List of Asian Americans and Pacific Islands Americans in the United States Congress. C2D. Therequiembellishere (talk) 23:07, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the United States House of Representatives of Asian descent to Category:Members of the United States House of Representatives of Asian and Pacific Islander descent – Same as above. C2D. Therequiembellishere (talk) 23:07, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the United States Congress of Asian descent to Category:Members of the United States Congress of Asian and Pacific Islander descent – C2D: Same as the three below The Bushranger One ping only 00:47, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American politicians of Asian descent to Category:American politicians of Asian and Pacific Islander descent – Adding other similar categories. Therequiembellishere (talk) 16:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the Cabinet of the United States of Asian descent to Category:Members of the Cabinet of the United States of Asian and Pacific Islander descent – Adding other similar categories. Therequiembellishere (talk) 16:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:City council members of Asian descent to Category:City council members of Asian and Pacific Islander descent – Adding other similar categories. Therequiembellishere (talk) 16:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American state governors of Asian descent to Category:American state governors of Asian and Pacific Islander descent – Adding other similar categories. Therequiembellishere (talk) 16:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American mayors of Asian descent to Category:American mayors of Asian and Pacific Islander descent – Adding other similar categories. Therequiembellishere (talk) 16:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American politicians of Asian descent by state to Category:American politicians of Asian and Pacific Islander descent by state – Adding other similar categories. Therequiembellishere (talk) 16:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:American women of Asian descent in politics to Category:American women of Asian and Pacific Islander descent in politics – Adding other similar categories. Therequiembellishere (talk) 16:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose this batch, American people of Oceanian descent are kept separate in Category:American people of Oceanian descent. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:21, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:PopCap Games games to Category:PopCap games – C2A; move back to old name. Old name has "Games" only once, though the company's common or short name is simply PopCap. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:56, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, this conflicts with WP:C2D, PopCap Games. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: Noting that the article had been moved to List of PopCap games prior to this request, but I've reverted the move and it's now back at List of PopCap Games games. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:40, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't change anything about PopCap Games. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure that "PopCap games" would be the common useage. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:32, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- No you're right, it doesn't. I was just making a note of it. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:31, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
- That doesn't change anything about PopCap Games. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:16, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: Noting that the article had been moved to List of PopCap games prior to this request, but I've reverted the move and it's now back at List of PopCap Games games. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:40, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose also, the company's name is "PopCap Games", not "PopCap". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:08, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, this conflicts with WP:C2D, PopCap Games. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Telecommunications in the Republic of Ireland to Category:Telecommunications in Ireland – "Republic of Ireland" is the description of Ireland, while "Ireland" is the name of the country. (Article 4 of the Constitution of Ireland declares that the name of the state is Ireland; Section 2 of the Republic of Ireland Act 1948 declares that Republic of Ireland is "the description of the State") Both have different pages though both pages convey the same country. TattooedLeprechaun|🗣️💬 23:25, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - part of an established tree under Category:Republic of Ireland, which states Category:Ireland covers both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland and deals with topics relating to the two jurisdictions on the island of Ireland.. This category is strictly for the country of Ireland, not the island of Ireland, and thus "Republic of Ireland" is the correct name. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:37, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- C2C - Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 22#Category:LGBTQ by continent and country. --MikutoH talk! 03:13, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge Category:Same-sex marriage in Africa by country to Category:Same-sex marriage by country and Category:Same-sex marriage in Africa
- Merge Category:Same-sex marriage in Asia by country to Category:Same-sex marriage by country and Category:Same-sex marriage in Asia
- Merge Category:Same-sex marriage in Europe by country to Category:Same-sex marriage by country and Category:Same-sex marriage in Europe
- Merge Category:Same-sex marriage in North America by country to Category:Same-sex marriage by country and Category:Same-sex marriage in North America
- Merge Category:Same-sex marriage in Oceania by country to Category:Same-sex marriage by country and Category:Same-sex marriage in Oceania
- Merge Category:Same-sex marriage in South America by country to Category:Same-sex marriage in South America and Category:Same-sex marriage by country
- @MikutoH: oppose speedy, WP:C2C applies to renaming, not to merging. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Hostage taking to Category:Hostage-taking – C2A: it's "hostage-taking", isn't it? There are numerous subcats, but I'll wait marking them for renaming, pending reactions to this one. HandsomeFella (talk) 15:30, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. "Hostage Taking" is also fine. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 17:12, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Well, they also capitalize "Taking", and we don't follow that. Maybe there's a better source, one that's actually about spelling and such. HandsomeFella (talk) 12:00, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- C2A is only for clear errors; debatable cases like this would need a full discussion. – Fayenatic London 12:16, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Well, they also capitalize "Taking", and we don't follow that. Maybe there's a better source, one that's actually about spelling and such. HandsomeFella (talk) 12:00, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. "Hostage Taking" is also fine. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 17:12, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
[edit]- Category:United States–European Union relations to Category:European Union–United States relations – C2D: and C2C (cousins). Web-julio (talk) 23:06, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Fiji–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Fiji relations
- Category:The Gambia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–the Gambia relations
- Category:Georgia (country)–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Georgia (country) relations
- Category:Greenland–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Greenland relations
- Category:Guatemala–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Guatemala relations
- Category:Guyana–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Guyana relations
- Category:Holy See–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Holy See relations
- Category:Iceland–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Iceland relations
- Category:India–European Union relations to Category:European Union–India relations
- Category:Indonesia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Indonesia relations
- Category:Iran–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Iran relations
- Category:Iraq–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Iraq relations
- Category:Israel–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Israel relations
- Category:Ivory Coast–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Ivory Coast relations
- Category:Jamaica–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Jamaica relations
- Category:Japan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Japan relations
- Category:Jordan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Jordan relations
- Category:Kazakhstan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Kazakhstan relations
- Category:Kosovo–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Kosovo relations
- Category:Kyrgyzstan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Kyrgyzstan relations
- Category:Lebanon–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Lebanon relations
- Category:Libya–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Libya relations
- Category:Liechtenstein–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Liechtenstein relations
- Category:Madagascar–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Madagascar relations
- Category:Malaysia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Malaysia relations
- Category:Maldives–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Maldives relations
- Category:Mali–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Mali relations
- Category:Mauritania–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Mauritania relations
- Category:Mauritius–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Mauritius relations
- Category:Mexico–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Mexico relations
- Category:Micronesia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Micronesia relations
- Category:Moldova–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Moldova relations
- Category:Monaco–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Monaco relations
- Category:Mongolia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Mongolia relations
- Category:Montenegro–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Montenegro relations
- Category:Morocco–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Morocco relations
- Category:Namibia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Namibia relations
- Category:Nepal–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Nepal relations
- Category:New Zealand–European Union relations to Category:European Union–New Zealand relations
- Category:Nicaragua–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Nicaragua relations
- Category:Niue–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Niue relations
- Category:North Korea–European Union relations to Category:European Union–North Korea relations
- Category:North Macedonia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–North Macedonia relations
- Category:Norway–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Norway relations
- Category:Pakistan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Pakistan relations
- Category:Palau–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Palau relations
- Category:State of Palestine–European Union relations to Category:European Union–State of Palestine relations
- Category:Philippines–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Philippines relations
- Category:Qatar–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Qatar relations
- Category:Russia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Russia relations
- Category:Samoa–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Samoa relations
- Category:San Marino–European Union relations to Category:European Union–San Marino relations
- Category:São Tomé and Príncipe–European Union relations to Category:European Union–São Tomé and Príncipe relations
- Category:Saudi Arabia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Saudi Arabia relations
- Category:Serbia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Serbia relations
- Category:Seychelles–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Seychelles relations
- Category:Sierra Leone–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Sierra Leone relations
- Category:Singapore–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Singapore relations
- Category:Somalia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Somalia relations
- Category:South Africa–European Union relations to Category:European Union–South Africa relations
- Category:South Korea–European Union relations to Category:European Union–South Korea relations
- Category:Sri Lanka–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Sri Lanka relations
- Category:Switzerland–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Switzerland relations
- Category:Syria–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Syria relations
- Category:Taiwan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Taiwan relations
- Category:Tanzania–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Tanzania relations
- Category:Tonga–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Tonga relations
- Category:Turkey–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Turkey relations
- Category:Turkmenistan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Turkmenistan relations
- Category:Uganda–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Uganda relations
- Category:Ukraine–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Ukraine relations
- Category:Uzbekistan–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Uzbekistan relations
- Category:Venezuela–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Venezuela relations
- Category:Vietnam–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Vietnam relations
- Category:Yemen–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Yemen relations
- Category:Zambia–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Zambia relations
- Category:Zimbabwe–European Union relations to Category:European Union–Zimbabwe relations
- Commnet All European Union cats nominated are under the false impression that the EU is a country and that standard naming conventions apply. They don't. The EU is a multilateral organization. All categories nominated are under the proper naming convention. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Query @WikiCleanerMan: is this an objection to 'all of the above', then? - The Bushranger One ping only 23:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- No, they are not. In the case of some, many are C2D (such as the USA case). So shouldn't have a consistency with order? Because a category and some articles start with EU: European Union–Sudan relations, European Union–Turkey relations, and Category:European Union–Rwanda relations. Web-julio (talk) 23:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. I object. There needs to be wider consensus and there is no consensus as in case in point from 2014 from the US article talk page. Country-EU relations title format as been the way for a long time and it isn't going to change without a wider discussion for the articles. Nominator is going backwards by starting wit categorizes. Alphabetical order is for countries. EU is not a country. African Union-European Union is fine because those are two organizations not countries that have relations. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:29, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiCleanerMan So should I start CFD now or someone else? Web-julio (talk) 00:55, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Web-julio you can if you want, but I don't think that it's going to be successful. I don't think that the rename is a good idea because having the country first is more helpful for navigation. As I've mentioned on your talk page, I think you need to slow down and learn more about categorization norms before making mass changes. SMasonGarrison 02:03, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- So are we gonna keep Rwanda? There's nothing to learn here as no consensus or policy was shown regarding this inconsistency. Web-julio (talk) 02:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, well, if you think you know everything about categories fine. But I already pointed out that demanding a policy/consensus be shown is not a good way to learn about categorization. SMasonGarrison 02:15, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- There is consistency. As in they already existed already long before you started editing Wikipedia. The Rwanda category has to be changed to it's proper name setting. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:56, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiCleanerMan The lack of consistency is why it would need to go to full. There is no need to bring account age into the conversation. SMasonGarrison 12:45, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- There is consistency. As in they already existed already long before you started editing Wikipedia. The Rwanda category has to be changed to it's proper name setting. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:56, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, well, if you think you know everything about categories fine. But I already pointed out that demanding a policy/consensus be shown is not a good way to learn about categorization. SMasonGarrison 02:15, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- So are we gonna keep Rwanda? There's nothing to learn here as no consensus or policy was shown regarding this inconsistency. Web-julio (talk) 02:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Web-julio you can if you want, but I don't think that it's going to be successful. I don't think that the rename is a good idea because having the country first is more helpful for navigation. As I've mentioned on your talk page, I think you need to slow down and learn more about categorization norms before making mass changes. SMasonGarrison 02:03, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiCleanerMan So should I start CFD now or someone else? Web-julio (talk) 00:55, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. I object. There needs to be wider consensus and there is no consensus as in case in point from 2014 from the US article talk page. Country-EU relations title format as been the way for a long time and it isn't going to change without a wider discussion for the articles. Nominator is going backwards by starting wit categorizes. Alphabetical order is for countries. EU is not a country. African Union-European Union is fine because those are two organizations not countries that have relations. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:29, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- None of these are countries either: Category:African Union–European Union relations. Web-julio (talk) 23:13, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Web-julio: you can move the discussion to CFD if you want to, in that case please re-tag the category pages. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:01, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle I think that since a RM is going on, we could wait. I guess that's why these weren't removed from here, right? Web-julio (talk) 18:44, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Web-julio: you can move the discussion to CFD if you want to, in that case please re-tag the category pages. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:01, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Commnet All European Union cats nominated are under the false impression that the EU is a country and that standard naming conventions apply. They don't. The EU is a multilateral organization. All categories nominated are under the proper naming convention. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
[edit]- Category:Persian physicists to Category:Ancient Persian physicists – C2C: parents are Ancient Persian people and Iranian physicists. Category:Persian people has a disclaimer that "historic Persian people use Ancient Persian people (before AD 500) or Medieval Iranian people (AD 500 to AD 1500)" SMasonGarrison 20:24, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: the articles are about medieval people. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:06, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd be equally fine with Medieval Iranian physicists. SMasonGarrison 21:04, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: sorry for bothering you again but I think there is no longer a speedy criterion applicable. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:29, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Can you bring it to full? SMasonGarrison 14:29, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: sorry for bothering you again but I think there is no longer a speedy criterion applicable. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:29, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd be equally fine with Medieval Iranian physicists. SMasonGarrison 21:04, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:19, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: the articles are about medieval people. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:06, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Man-eaters of India to Category:Man-eating animals of India – C2B: per Man-eating animal/Category:Man-eating animals. Armbrust The Homunculus 03:36, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think it should probably be Category:Man-eating animals in India. A small distinction, but "of" implies they are commonplace in India somehow. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- ..."of" is the standard for this sort of category. It has nothing to do with impling they're "commonplace". - The Bushranger One ping only 01:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- I am unsure what you mean by "the standard". The parent category is Category:Animal attacks in Uzb. "In" would appear to match up. mxnstrixxx (ᴛ) 10:17, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:19, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- ..."of" is the standard for this sort of category. It has nothing to do with impling they're "commonplace". - The Bushranger One ping only 01:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think it should probably be Category:Man-eating animals in India. A small distinction, but "of" implies they are commonplace in India somehow. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
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